How NOT to Date a Narcissist

Photo by Gregory Bastien: http://www.flickr.com/people/gregory_bastien/

Avoiding narcissistic men in Los Angeles is a bit like trying to avoid the rain in London. Even after interviewing a few experts and reading articles on the topic, it seems that when it comes to narcissists, there just isn’t a one-size-fits all model. That’s why they are so tricky to spot. If they all wore Armani suits, drove Ferraris and name-dropped, it would make life for single women in La La land (or anywhere!) much easier. But narcissists come in all shapes and sizes and really are easy to love—in the beginning. Surprisingly, they may be the men who, on the first dates, are amazingly supportive, good listeners and offer to help you in some way. They literally sweep you off your feet and make you feel incredibly special. This is why single moms, especially, are easy targets for the manipulative narcissist. So, as I venture out into the dating world, I desperately want to avoid falling for these men who, while charming and fun in the beginning, are users, spin-masters, chaos makers, and hurt those closest to them.

In Psychology Today’s cover article “How to Spot a Narcissist,” author Scott Barry Kaufman, Ph.D., does a great job explaining the personality disorder. I like to dig deep and try to understand what lies beneath complex behavior, as it helps me become more compassionate. I didn’t realize, for instance, that most narcissists have a deep fear of not being good enough and are prone to episodes of depression or anxiety. I learned a lot from his article, but I kept thinking that it still didn’t help me, as a newly single woman, be able to spot a narcissist on the first date. I mean, I don’t want to find out that a man is really a jerk six months later when he cheats on me and wreaks havoc on my life. Right? So, how does a woman quickly discern whether the man she meets is the real deal or a narcissistic spin master?

For help, I interviewed Debra Cucci, MA, MFT, a therapist in Los Angeles who also runs support groups for women navigating the dating world in LA. Over the past 20 years, Cucci has become an expert on narcissists as she has counseled many women whose marriages and children have been drastically affected by the devastating fallout from living with one. While it may not always be possible to spot a narcissist on the first date, Cucci insists that there are quite a few characteristics that give away the disorder.

“Their presentation is a facade. They just may be too good to be true,” Cucci explained the other day in her office.

“One way to discern if they are who they portray themselves to be is to ask them (during a first date) ‘What’s the most embarrassing thing in your life?’ This is [a good question] because they tend to pretend that their lives are perfect,” she said.

Looking around her office, I saw many books written by experts on this personality disorder, that I want to read, such as The Drama of the Gifted Child, by Alice Miller. Cucci explained that a person diagnosed with clinical narcissism is not just a silly person who is vain and self-absorbed. (If that were the case than most of us would have to admit to being a narcissist at one time in our lives!) No, a person with this personality disorder can be extremely dangerous, or in the very least, assured to cause emotional damage to your life and those of your children. This is because they will often do whatever it takes to achieve their goals and feed their inflated sense of self. But when times are hard, a narcissist doesn’t handle it well. So in down times, such as times when there are issues at work, marriages often fall apart as a wife and children typically bear the brunt of the narcissist’s bruised ego. If things aren’t going a narcissist’s way, for instance, he may act out in a variety of ways, like having an affair, being hyper critical of family members, having extreme mood swings, abusing alcohol or drugs, etc.

So with that in mind, I asked Cucci to come up with some telltale signs of a narcissist, that women can look for on the first few dates:

  • A narcissist will blame other people for things that aren’t working in their lives.
  • Does he diss his ex or put other people down often?
  • Narcissists like to play the victim role. Be wary if you hear things such as: “It’s my dad’s fault, he wouldn’t pay for college” or “I didn’t have a choice, I couldn’t get out of it.”
  • Name dropping is an obvious trait of a narcissist. They love to believe that they are special and will try to impress you with who they know.
  • Many narcissists have a love/hate relationship with their mother, as often they have narcissistic moms, who may likely have told them that they were extremely gifted, like her. (This can also be true about having a narcissistic father, but dads tend to be less available emotionally, so one is more affected by their primary care-giver.)
  • Is he predatory, but “in a good way?” Many narcissistic men can be sexy and athletic, giving them the confidence to approach women easily. They tend to have a lot of experience with women and therefore become good predators, “smooth operators” and can charm women—especially those with less dating experience.
  • Is he not able to show sympathy? This is a tricky quality to spot in the early stages of dating a narcissist, as often they pretend to be terribly sympathetic to your plight. But if, once they have you as a sex partner, they no longer seem sympathetic to your life issues, or they are no longer good friends unless their interests are being taken care of, then you know they are a narcissist.
  • Does he make grandiose offers, statements and promises in public, but rarely follows through in private? A narcissist may offer to help you move or babysit your children in front of friends or family, but then forget to follow through a week later.
  • “Narcissists attack you and devalue you if you don’t give them what they want,” warns Cucci. This trait isn’t easily seen in the beginning of a courtship, however. This is why Cucci says it’s important for woman not to have sex with a new man for two months. This seems mighty hard to do! … But she insists that narcissists won’t wait that long.
  • He has nearly 1,000 friends on Facebook, but not that many close, deep friendships with other men.

Did these tips help you? Do you think you’re dating or are in love with a narcissist? Chime in—I’d love to hear from you!

15 Responses to How NOT to Date a Narcissist

  1. Great article Laura! Thank you for sharing! So so true! I think this fits quite a few characters I have dated lately…and us good single moms coming from broken marriages are perfect targets for these charmers…we know it too deep down,the hard decision is …do you keep hopeing it will change,do you stay for the great sex,can you keep it cool without falling for them? The trick is recognize it,take it for what it is…sex and fun…and move on,would we want this kind of guy for our daughters???? I don’t think so….I have to say the guy in the picture looks totally yummy…ha ha,looks like someone I dated! Oy!

    • Laura Roe Stevens

      Thanks Alina!! Los Angeles is especially tricky dating territory! Anyone would be so lucky to have you, that really, staying clear of these guys will make space for the better ones to come in! Don’t know the guy in the picture, just love the photographer :-) . Hope to see you and your adorable daughter soon! x

  2. Oh I know a narcissist who actually had “The Drama of the Gifted Child” on his shelf! And then bought me a copy – which I should have read as a guide to his psyche!

  3. Laura Roe Stevens

    Wow, frightening!

  4. Wow…the therapist described my soon to be ex to perfection! He was pretty stealth because of his out of town job. When everything hit the fan, her description, (the very worst of it) was revealed! The internet and our mobility has made it worse in my opinion.

  5. I forgot to mention that the ex actually had already targeted a single mother to manipulate while we were married. That was how I found out about ALL the rest of the insanity! Good topics Laura!

  6. What about female narcissists? How do you spot them? I’m talking the lesbians.

    • Im not a lesbian but I know women that are narcissist. They fit the same profile but use different style tactics but the same intent…control. I have a friend whose sister is NPD and mother is a sociopath. They line up the same as men with a different cover.

  7. Amazing! Thanks so much for this great information. I can now side-step those land mines :-)

  8. I was married to one and he fit almost every bullet point on the list. They are EXTREMELY charming in the beginning, but have a very difficult time maintaining the facade over time. This article serves as a great reminder of what to look out for.

  9. I agree about the extremely charming facade.

  10. When will both women and men learn that sex really does belong only in marriage? How long until we all catch on that the ‘sexual revolution’ has had countless victims? So–while the article is intriguing, it just seems silly to say ‘wait 2 months to have sex.’ Have we forgotten that the purpose of dating is getting to know the other person’s character, beliefs, etc.? It may sound outdated, but it’s so true–sex belongs in marriage. This would also prevent a lot of broken hearts and victimizing.

  11. I think if all the gorgeous women who can usually entice the narcissistic male would just simply ignore them in favour of shorter, slightly overweight, older men (like myself) the world would be a lot happier place.

    (just a thought)

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